December 16, 2004

Douglas Park Gets Council Approval

As reported in the Long Beach Press-Telegram, Boeing Realty received Long Beach City Council approval for the Douglas Park development on December 14th.

Demolition of the old Douglas plant should be completed by the end of February 2005. The P-T goes on to say:


Infrastructure sewer lines, underground utility lines and related work could be installed as part of a first phase starting in July, Boeing Realty executives said. That work could last until late 2005.

Check back at wilexa.com for photo updates of the end of the demolition and beginning of the new construction.

Posted by wilexa at 09:10 PM | Comments (1)

Stay Tuned...

Sorry, folks.

This site has laid dormant for too long. It's time to get things moving again!

Look for photo updates before then of the year.

Happy Holidays,
Dave

Posted by wilexa at 09:04 PM | Comments (1)

June 23, 2004

Serious Demolition Activity Resumes

This May 18, 2004 panorama shows the siding removed from Buildings 2, 4, and 6. Visit the panorama page to see how things used to look.

18 May 2004
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18 May 2004.
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Posted by wilexa at 12:22 AM | Comments (1)

May 04, 2004

New Name: Douglas Park!

PacifiCenter is dead! Long live Douglas Park!

Boeing Realty has switched names (and logos) for the redevelopment of the old Douglas Aircraft factory in Long Beach, California. It had been dubbed "PacifiCenter" but is now "Douglas Park". You can read about it at the official home page http://www.douglaspark.org. They have also scaled back the housing units and otherwise modified the proposal.

Quoting from the site:

In partnership with the people and City of Long Beach, we've modified the design somewhat. We've made it more beautiful, more open, more human-scale. We've reduced the number of homes from 2,500 to 1,400. And, along the way, we've changed the name to Douglas Park - in honor of Donald Douglas and the many people who made history here.

[Editorial: This is a good thing. The new name, logo, and focus are much more inspirational than the neutral "PacifiCenter@Long Beach".]

Posted by wilexa at 09:55 PM | Comments (1)

April 12, 2004

Bldg 6A

The siding removal is continuing at a pretty rapid pace on several of the remaining old Douglas Aircraft manufacturing buildings. One of the "godzilla" excavator machines was spotted roaming the PacifiCenter work site last week, snipping a few external pipes and other minor external building features on Bldg 4.

A few snapshots were taken of Bldg 6A with its siding down. This is the same area along Carson Street that the Turbo electrical substation once occupied.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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The siding is gone from the north side of Bldg 6A.

The siding is gone from the north side of Bldg 6A.
(Apr  8)

Looking S through Bldg 6A with the siding gone.

Looking S through Bldg 6A with the siding gone.
(Apr  8)

Closeup of some apparatus inside Bldg 6A.

Closeup of some apparatus inside Bldg 6A.
(Apr  8)

Looking SW at the north side of Bldg 6A.  Former Turbo electrical substation is in the foreground.

Looking SW at the north side of Bldg 6A. Former Turbo electrical substation is in the foreground.
(Apr  8)

   
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March 29, 2004

Bldg 2 Siding Coming Off

The walls are coming off once again at the PacifiCenter work site. In scenes very reminiscent of early 2003, work crews have begun removing the siding panels from Bldgs 2 and 6. Although the old Douglas WWII-era buildings aren't scheduled to come down until the second half of this year, it takes a lot of preparation before the "Godzilla" machines show up.

In other news, the huge pile of debris that was stored just to the east of Bldg 4 has been transported, truckload by truckload, to an area just south of Bldg 13.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Pile of rocks east of Bldg 4 is getting smaller.

Pile of rocks east of Bldg 4 is getting smaller.
(Mar 28)

Pile of rocks east of Bldg 4 is almost gone.

Pile of rocks east of Bldg 4 is almost gone.
(Mar 28)

Siding removed from south side of Bldg 6A.

Siding removed from south side of Bldg 6A.
(Mar 28)

The last bit of the rock pile (wide shot) east of Bldg 4.

The last bit of the rock pile (wide shot) east of Bldg 4.
(Mar 28)

Panels coming of the north side of Bldg 2.

Panels coming of the north side of Bldg 2.
(Mar 28)

Siding removed from over north hangar doors of Bldg 2.

Siding removed from over north hangar doors of Bldg 2.
(Mar 29)

Siding removal from NE corner of Bldg 2.

Siding removal from NE corner of Bldg 2.
(Mar 29)

Siding panels coming off the east wall of Bldg 2.

Siding panels coming off the east wall of Bldg 2.
(Mar 29)

 
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March 28, 2004

PacifiCenter Debate Intensifies

The debate over the residential aspects of PacifiCenter is picking up steam. According to a story in the Long Beach Press-Telegram, last week was marked by public statements from organizations for and against housing at the proposed development.

Last Thursday, the board of directors of the Long Beach Chamber of Commerce voted unanimously (with two Boeing-related abstentions) to support the project. A chamber task force had examined the proposal and concluded that PacifiCenter will "create new jobs, much-needed high-end quality housing and economic benefits for the city."

Opposing the proposal in its current form, two Lakewood community groups and members of the general aviation business community held a press conference on Friday. Their concerns center around traffic, burdens on the local schools and the basic incompatibility of a major housing development adjacent to a busy airport.

You can investigate the pro and con websites for yourself at www.longbeachadvocacy.biz/pacificenter.htm and www.dangerouspath.com.

Posted by wilexa at 11:41 PM | Comments (1)

March 16, 2004

Starting on Bldg 6

Dumpsters have arrived outside Bldg 6 in preparation for the next phase of the demolition. The next few months will be used to clear the interiors of the remaining buildings, to prepare for taking them down later this year. Here are a few recent pictures to catch up on the activities.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Sunset at the demolition site.

Sunset at the demolition site.
(Mar  2)

Foggy morning at the work site.  Dumpsters have been placed outside Bldg 6 and a cherry picker is just visible in the distance.

Foggy morning at the work site. Dumpsters have been placed outside Bldg 6 and a cherry picker is just visible in the distance.
(Mar 15)

Looking west between Bldg 4 (left) and Bldg 6.  Preparing for gutting the interior of Bldg 6.

Looking west between Bldg 4 (left) and Bldg 6. Preparing for gutting the interior of Bldg 6.
(Mar 16)

Tanker truck parked at the NW corner of Bldg 4.

Tanker truck parked at the NW corner of Bldg 4.
(Mar 16)

Contrary to some speculation, plants have sprung up at the demolition site.  These weeds appeared where Bldg 5 once stood.

Contrary to some speculation, plants have sprung up at the demolition site. These weeds appeared where Bldg 5 once stood.
(Mar 16)

 
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March 04, 2004

NFL in Long Beach?

Is the NFL coming to Long Beach? A web site has sprung up at NFLLongBeach.com that is trying to garner support for just such a thing. Apparently, Boeing Realty isn't the only group that recognizes the potential for all the acreage of the former Douglas Aircraft site. NFLLongBeach.com proposes a National Football League team and stadium just north of Long Beach airport. Details appear sketchy at this stage, but the web site looks to be a grass-roots effort to generate interest for a stadium before it is too late.

Got an opinion or know of a new alternative? Visit the Hangar Talk Forums today and join the discussion!

Disclaimer: Wilexa.com is completely neutral on the future use of the PacifiCenter site and neither advocates nor opposes the various alternatives that are being proposed. This item is included for information only.

Posted by wilexa at 10:33 PM | Comments (1)

February 27, 2004

Your Engineering Career

To help celebrate National Engineers Week (a bit late) we offer a Douglas Aircraft recruiting booklet for engineering students during World War 2. Your Engineering Career shows the various Douglas planes to date and depicts a fun, challenging, and exciting career working for America's largest airplane company.

The company detailed the engineering opportunities available, from aerodynamicists to model designers to stress analysts to weights engineers and many others.

This booklet gives a quick overview of the Douglas Aircraft Company during the war years. There are sections on its heritage, products, facilities, and even a warm introduction from Donald W. Douglas himself.

Visit the Reading Room to view this 28-page history lesson today!

Posted by wilexa at 11:37 PM | Comments (1)

February 19, 2004

Draft EIR

The PacifiCenter Draft Environmental Impact Report has been published and public comments are now being accepted. The EIR can be viewed online or in person at any City of Long Beach Public Library, as well as the City of Long Beach Building and Planning Department.

The official PacifiCenter web site has a feature called "Draft EIR @ a Glance" that presents an easy-to-digest version of the EIR, focusing on the topics that matter the most to most people.

This full report details the current plans and alternatives that Boeing Realty has on the drawing board. There are three alternatives put forth, from a "preferred" plan that would include 2,500 residences and 3.3 million square feet of commercial space to an "all-commercial" plan. The homes envisioned for two of the three proposals would sit on the east side of the project, just to the west of Lakewood Blvd.

The schedule calls for the site to be completely cleared (including "the tower", Bldg 18A) by the end of the year (2004)! The development should be completed by 2020.

You can voice your comments and opinions in the Current Events forum. Links to recent news stories can be found there also. Remember, you don't need to register to post, and even if you do register, your email address will be kept strictly private.

Here are a few images of recent work going on at the PacifiCenter site. You can view the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

Click on a picture to see a larger image:

A wet day at the work site.

A wet day at the work site.
(Feb  3)

Testing one of the setups.

Testing one of the setups.
(Feb  6)

Three trucks at once!  Relatively busy day.

Three trucks at once! Relatively busy day.
(Feb  6)

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January 31, 2004

2002 Revisited

One of the first entries in the Demolition Diary was an anonymous Powerpoint presentation that had been floating around emails for quite some time. It shows various photos of the sections of the Boeing Long Beach plant scheduled for "renewal" after manufacturing work had stopped, but before the demolition work had started. These images offer a rare inside view of the buildings, some of which have since been torn down. These photos may have been taken in 2002.

The presentation has been tucked away on a corner of this website, out of the mainstream for a while, so it seems appropriate to bring it to the forefront now. Also, many Wilexa readers do not have Powerpoint, so these photos have been extracted so that all visitors can view them. If you know the date(s) these photos were taken, or if you are the photographer and would like credit, please send us an email.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Looking west.  The south end of Bldg 5 is on the right side of the photo, easily recognizable by the stacks.  (ca. 2002)

Looking west. The south end of Bldg 5 is on the right side of the photo, easily recognizable by the stacks. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Bldg 12(?) interior.  Note the steel stands for working on the fuselage sections.  (ca. 2002)

Bldg 12(?) interior. Note the steel stands for working on the fuselage sections. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

East side Bldg 13.  Looking NNE.  Train tracks can be seen in the foreground.  (ca. 2002)

East side Bldg 13. Looking NNE. Train tracks can be seen in the foreground. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

South side Bldg 13.  Looking NW.  Bldg 13 has two sections, high and low.  Bldg 41 is in the distance on the left side of the photo.  (ca. 2002)

South side Bldg 13. Looking NW. Bldg 13 has two sections, high and low. Bldg 41 is in the distance on the left side of the photo. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

East side Bldg 15 behind some tooling.  Looking west.  Bldg 41 is on the right side (north).  (ca. 2002)

East side Bldg 15 behind some tooling. Looking west. Bldg 41 is on the right side (north). (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Bldg 800 from across Lakewood Blvd.  Looking west.  The south end of Bldg 5 is on the left side of the photo, Bldgs 3 and 4 are on the right.  (ca. 2002)

Bldg 800 from across Lakewood Blvd. Looking west. The south end of Bldg 5 is on the left side of the photo, Bldgs 3 and 4 are on the right. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Looking east.  Bldg 800 in the distance.  Bldgs 12 and 13 are on the right side of the photo.  (ca. 2002)

Looking east. Bldg 800 in the distance. Bldgs 12 and 13 are on the right side of the photo. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Between 12 and 13 looking south.  (ca. 2002)

Between 12 and 13 looking south. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

The interior of an unidentified building.  (ca. 2002)

The interior of an unidentified building. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Inside of this building has been cleaned out.  (ca. 2002)

Inside of this building has been cleaned out. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Another unidentified interior shot.  (ca. 2002)

Another unidentified interior shot. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

These manufacturing buildings have caverous interiors!  (ca. 2002)

These manufacturing buildings have caverous interiors! (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

The tower (18A) from inside the plant (looking south).  The cafeteria building is on the left.  (ca. 2002)

The tower (18A) from inside the plant (looking south). The cafeteria building is on the left. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Dock 40, the main receiving area for the Long Beach DAC plant.  (ca. 2002)

Dock 40, the main receiving area for the Long Beach DAC plant. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

The motor pool, garages, and service station, just north of Bldg 41.  (ca. 2002)

The motor pool, garages, and service station, just north of Bldg 41. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

Gate 6, the main entrance to the plant (looking out from inside).  Long Beach airport is in the background.  (ca. 2002)

Gate 6, the main entrance to the plant (looking out from inside). Long Beach airport is in the background. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

The pedestrian walkway over Lakewood Blvd. that connects Bldg 800 to the west side.  Looking east.  (ca. 2002)

The pedestrian walkway over Lakewood Blvd. that connects Bldg 800 to the west side. Looking east. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

The north tunnel (exit) and Bldgs 9 and 800.  Looking east.  (ca. 2002)

The north tunnel (exit) and Bldgs 9 and 800. Looking east. (ca. 2002)
Photo by Unknown
(  0)

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January 12, 2004

New Activity Near Bldg 2

Some new activity, at long last, is visible around the corner of Bldg 2. A crane dropped off a portable office on January 8, and stakebed trucks have been seen going in and out of the barricades. It seems as if most of the work is going on betwen Bldgs 1 and 2 and Bldgs 35 and 36. Unfortunately, getting good photos is a bit of a problem in this area, since it is not visible from the street.

Visit the map for reference.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Tearing up the parking lot between Bldgs 35 and 36.

Tearing up the parking lot between Bldgs 35 and 36.
(Jan  9)

Backhoe loading rocks into dump truck near north end of Bldg 2.

Backhoe loading rocks into dump truck near north end of Bldg 2.
(Jan  9)

There is activity around the NE corner of Bldg 2.

There is activity around the NE corner of Bldg 2.
(Jan  9)

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December 29, 2003

End of 2003 Panorama

This panorama shows the progress of the Boeing Long Beach plant demolition at the end of 2003. Buildings 3, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 17 have been removed, but no buildings have fallen in over four months. Visit the panorama page to see how things have changed over the course of 2003.

17 Dec 2003
Date
17 Dec 2003.
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December 03, 2003

While we wait...

While we wait for more visible progress on the PacifiCenter site, work continues on the Skylinks renovation. Catch up on some new photos in the Goodbye Skylinks gallery. A map of the former course layout has been added for reference.

New to the Reading Room is the 1943 Douglas Aircraft Employee Manual You and Your Company. This manual covers everything (well, almost everything) that a new war worker would need to know for their first day on the job.

If you have any new information on the PacifiCenter project, please share it in the forums. Visible work should be starting "soon", so check back often for the latest news!

Posted by wilexa at 12:09 AM | Comments (1)

November 23, 2003

1961 LB Aerial Photos

The Douglas Long Beach plant in 1961 is the subject of these two aerial photos submitted by reader Steven Parker. Thanks, Steven!

Click on the pictures for the full-size version:

    

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November 18, 2003

Envelopes

First flights and other aviation events sometimes rate a commemorative issue stamp or envelope. Some of these covers, as they are called, are issued by a proud government. Some are special marketing materials from the aircraft manufacturer. Usually there is wonderful artwork on the front of the envelope and often there is a descriptive letter inside.

Take at a look at our collection of commemorative envelopes in the Heritage section.

Posted by wilexa at 07:53 PM | Comments (1)

October 28, 2003

Welcome to the Reading Room

The first few manuals have been added to the brand-spanking-new Reading Room. Please stop in and take a look. Feedback (bug reports, critiques, etc.) is always welcome. There are three manuals to kick things off, all from the WWII era: a safety manual, the DAC plant rules, and a hand signal manual.

The Reading Room is the first section of the planned "Douglas Heritage Collection" that will house selected historical documents, photos, and more from the proud heritage of the Douglas, McDonnell, and Boeing companies.

In other site news, the photos of the Skylinks renovation has been moved to the Outside the Fences gallery section. This will allow interested readers to keep tabs on the golf course renewal, but keep the main focus of the mainstream wilexa.com site on the demolition work.

Thanks for your patience while we work to make this site better every day!

Posted by wilexa at 09:40 PM | Comments (1)

October 20, 2003

Changes are Coming!

More historical photos are on the way! It has always been the intent of this site to build a collection of DAC historical images in addition to the PacifiCenter news.

Thanks to the generous help of Scott Kaczorowski of xb-70.com, the historical images will make their way here in the near future.

Wilexa.com will be undergoing a major renovation this autumn. As the site is rebuilt, visitors are still welcome. Check back often to see the new additions. Please bookmark the home page to be sure to have the latest site news.

To get things started, here are a few sample photos to view. Look forward to many, many high quality/resolution images as we upgrade the site.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

Click on a picture to see a larger image:

C-17s in formation flight over Edwards AFB.

C-17s in formation flight over Edwards AFB.
(  0)

DAC flight test hangar.

DAC flight test hangar.
(  0)

DC-3s on the assembly line.

DC-3s on the assembly line.
(  0)

Good old days at DAC in Santa Monica.

Good old days at DAC in Santa Monica.
(  0)

Aerial view of the Huntington Beach plant.

Aerial view of the Huntington Beach plant.
(  0)

Aerial view of the Long Beach plant. (1970?)

Aerial view of the Long Beach plant. (1970?)
(  0)

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October 02, 2003

Skylinks is Closed

Skylinks Golf Course closed on Tuesday for a year-long renovation. This municipal course is just to the south of the Boeing plant along the east side of Lakewood Blvd.

According to the Long Beach Press-Telegram,

Skylinks Golf Course will close Tuesday for a one-year, $6 million renovation that includes new hole configurations, expanded landscaping and an upgraded clubhouse.

When the course reopens in October 2004, it will play 475 yards longer and feature new grass, enlarged tees and bigger greens. Landscaping additions include more slope, four lakes and fountains, 700 trees, 1,000 shrubs and course fencing.

The Municipal Golf Commission has also recommended that the course reopen with a new name, Long Beach Legends Golf Course, to coincide with the relocation of the city's Golf Hall of Fame.

Note to readers: Visit our Skylinks photo album in the Outside the Fences pages.

[Updated 2003-10-26]

Posted by wilexa at 02:40 AM | Comments (1)

October 01, 2003

September Panorama

The view has not changed much in the last month. There are the snake-like sandbags in place and blue tarps covering the wells, but other than that, this panorama looks just like the one from the end of August. As always, you can compare with panoramas from the past.

[Note: Apologies for the reflections from the windows. The glare during overcast days is unavoidable.]

30 September 2003
Date
30 Sep 2003.
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2250x250 (121 KB)
4500x500 (257 KB)
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(not yet avail)
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September 29, 2003

Sept 29 General Views

In lieu of a panorama, here are three overview pictures of the PacifiCenter work site. Stay tuned for a proper panorama later this week.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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General view, looking WNW.

General view, looking WNW.
(Sep 26)

General view, looking west.

General view, looking west.
(Sep 26)

General view, looking WSW.

General view, looking WSW.
(Sep 26)

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September 25, 2003

New Face for 41

The new portal for Bldg 41A is almost completed. This building, part of the Boeing enclave near the flight line, is not included in the PacifiCenter project. It will continue to see good use for many years. Here are a couple of new photos, along with one taken during the construction (for reference).

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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East side (main entrance) of Bldg 41 during remodel.

East side (main entrance) of Bldg 41 during remodel.
(Jun 26)

New face on Bldg 41A.

New face on Bldg 41A.
(Sep 24)

New portal on the east side of Bldg 41A.

New portal on the east side of Bldg 41A.
(Sep 24)

Posted by wilexa at 12:26 AM | Comments (1)

September 22, 2003

Sandbags

As the rainy season nears, crews are setting out measures to control any water problems. Blue tarps are covering all the little wells and sandbags are being laid out to control any flooding or standing water. In addition to traditional sandbags which have been placed along fences and other perimeter areas, crew have begun laying "continuous sandbags" that look like giant sausages around the edge of the site. The tubes are filled with soil and small rocks from a hopper that is raised on a Marklift. Pretty ingenious.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Traditional sandbags plus a sandbag tube running inside the fence along Lakewood Blvd.

Traditional sandbags plus a sandbag tube running inside the fence along Lakewood Blvd.
(Sep 19)

Workers laying out an empty sandbag tube.

Workers laying out an empty sandbag tube.
(Sep 19)

A sandbag tube along Lakewood Blvd.

A sandbag tube along Lakewood Blvd.
(Sep 19)

Looking through the fence.

Looking through the fence.
(Sep 19)

The sandbag tube is laid out just north of Bldg 1.

The sandbag tube is laid out just north of Bldg 1.
(Sep 19)

Superior Sandbag patented continuous sandbag system.

Superior Sandbag patented continuous sandbag system.
(Sep 19)

All the little wells have been covered by blue tarps.

All the little wells have been covered by blue tarps.
(Sep 19)

The soil and rocks in a hopper fill the sandbag tube like a giant sausage.

The soil and rocks in a hopper fill the sandbag tube like a giant sausage.
(Sep 19)

 
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September 19, 2003

Torrance Too!

It's not just Long Beach buildings that are feeling blows from an excavator. Julian Chasin snapped a few photos as the proverbial wrecking ball hit Boeing buildings 60, 61, and 62 in Torrance, California earlier this summer. The facility was not part of the main "C6" campus in Torrance, but it was home to a McDonnell Douglas/Boeing crew for nearly 10 years. (The crew moved back to Long Beach).

Located at 21000 South Normandie, the site is being prepared for the construction of over 100 townhomes. Sound familiar? Thanks again to Julian for the pictures.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Building 61 no more.

Building 61 no more.
Photo by Chasin
(Jul  2)

Building 62 in ruins.

Building 62 in ruins.
Photo by Chasin
(Jul  9)

End of an era.

End of an era.
Photo by Chasin
(Jul  9)

Going once...

Going once...
Photo by Chasin
(Aug  6)

Going twice...

Going twice...
Photo by Chasin
(Aug  6)

Going thrice...

Going thrice...
Photo by Chasin
(Aug 18)

Gone.

Gone.
Photo by Chasin
(Sep  3)

   
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September 16, 2003

Sept 16 Update

As promised yesterday, here are a couple of photos showing that the electrical substation has indeed been dismantled. Also included today are two snapshots showing a little activity near the northwest corner of Bldg 13.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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The old main electrical feed to the Westside is gone.

The old main electrical feed to the Westside is gone.
(Sep 12)

Turbo Substation dismantled.

Turbo Substation dismantled.
(Sep 12)

Bldg 12 and 13 from the northwest.

Bldg 12 and 13 from the northwest.
(Sep 12)

This crane assisted in dismantling the Stress Substation and power poles along the golf course.

This crane assisted in dismantling the Stress Substation and power poles along the golf course.
(Sep 12)

   
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September 15, 2003

Sept 15 Update

The crane operators have been busy even though the dirt-pushing has been halted of late. In addition to finishing off most of the Turbo electrical substation, they were spotted last Friday on the west side of the project, adjacent to the Lakewood Country Club golf course. Hopefully, we will have some pictures to post very soon. Check back tomorrow.

Please visit our Hangar Talk Forums today! Finn has broken the ice with a nice story in the "I Remember When..." section. Replies and new posts are always appreciated. It's easy!

Editors Note: While you are looking around the forums, please take the time to vote in a couple of polls in the "Polls and Queries" section. This website has grown quite a bit over the last few months and your feedback will make it a better experience for everyone. Registering for the forum is fast and your info (just an email address) is kept hidden and private. Thanks for your time.

Finally, we have taken a few more pictures of the rigs from Precision Sampling, Inc. that were featured here in an article last week. Hopefully these new pictures will better showcase the equipment.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.
(Sep  9)

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.
(Sep  9)

Precision Sampling, Inc. rig.

Precision Sampling, Inc. rig.
(Sep  9)

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.
(Sep  9)

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.

Precision Sampling, Inc. rigs.
(Sep  9)

Soil remediation crew.

Soil remediation crew.
(Sep  9)

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September 10, 2003

Turbo Substation

The Turbo electrical substation is getting dismantled this week. Workers are using cranes, cherry pickers, and the like to remove the substation along Carson Street.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Crane removing electrical substation see from Lakewood Blvd.

Crane removing electrical substation see from Lakewood Blvd.
(Sep  9)

Removing electrical substation from along Carson St.

Removing electrical substation from along Carson St.
(Sep  9)

Taking down the substation.

Taking down the substation.
(Sep  9)

Worker and two cranes at the Turbo substation.

Worker and two cranes at the Turbo substation.
(Sep  9)

Turbo substation.

Turbo substation.
(Sep  9)

 
Posted by wilexa at 11:31 PM | Comments (1)

September 08, 2003

Nothing Happening

We hear that "Phase 1 is complete", whatever that means. There has been virtually no activity at Lakewood and Carson over the past couple of weeks. We also hear that bids for "Phase 2" will go out in October. If you have any insight or information, please post it to our forums or send in an email so that we can share the info. Thanks for your patience!

Posted by wilexa at 05:10 AM | Comments (1)

August 25, 2003

Aug 25 Update

New Feature: On selected photos, look for the "green i" info icon info icon. Clicking on the icon will take you to an annotated version of the current photo, describing building numbers, directions, and other features. View a sample.

Although no buildings have come crashing down, the last week was filled with progress on many "little" things. The north tunnel was filled and graded, many truckloads of dirt were hauled away, and power and tubing lines were connected to a new central container/building. Here are a few pictures. View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Another load of dirt to fill the tunnel.

Another load of dirt to fill the tunnel.
(Aug 18)

North tunnel has been filled and smoothed over.

North tunnel has been filled and smoothed over.
(Aug 20)

Trucks lined up to haul away contaminated soil.

Trucks lined up to haul away contaminated soil.
(Aug 21)

Worker installing power lines.

Worker installing power lines.
(Aug 21)

Looking SW at Lakewood and Carson.

Looking SW at Lakewood and Carson.
(Aug 23)

Power poles, plastic tubing, and an orange fence.

Power poles, plastic tubing, and an orange fence.
(Aug 23)

Posted by wilexa at 05:11 AM | Comments (1)

August 24, 2003

Aug 23 SW Pan

A wide shot looking SW from near the bus stop at Lakewood & Carson:
 

23 Aug 2003
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23 Aug 2003.
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Click for more info Annotated Version Available
Posted by wilexa at 03:08 PM | Comments (1)

August 20, 2003

Aug 6 Homeowners Meeting

Local homeowners are organizing a campaign against the residential component of the proposed PacifiCenter development, according to an article in LBReport.com.

Posted by wilexa at 12:11 AM | Comments (1)

August 18, 2003

July 29 Panorama

This July 29th panorama dispels the myth that it never rains in southern California, at least not in the summer. It wasn't much, but you can clearly see the puddles and general wetness. Also, this is the first panorama posted with Bldg 5 is completely gone. To see a comparison over time, visit the panorama page. Thanks to contributor "M.S.S." for this picture!

29 July 2003
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29 July 2003.
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Composite photo by M.S.S.
Posted by wilexa at 12:30 AM | Comments (1)

North Tunnel Gone

The north tunnel has been removed. The portion of the tunnel to the west of Lakewood Blvd. is just a big dirt hole now. The concrete walls and road were dug up and crushed, leaving only soil behind. View the slide show or examine individual pictures below.

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Taking out the sides and road of the north tunnel.

Taking out the sides and road of the north tunnel.
(Aug 14)

The north tunnel is more than half gone.

The north tunnel is more than half gone.
(Aug 14)

The north tunnel is just a big hole now.

The north tunnel is just a big hole now.
(Aug 15)

Working on the tunnel debris.

Working on the tunnel debris.
(Aug 15)

   
Posted by wilexa at 12:13 AM | Comments (1)

August 15, 2003

South of Bldg 35

South of Bldg 35 the pace of work seems to be picking up. Bulldozers and other equipment have created a huge mound of dirt and spend time pushing dirt around former parking lots. The access road, though, remains open to give access to the "Boeing enclave".

Also, reader M.S.S. sent in a photo of the daily gathering of trucks back at the main work site. Thanks!

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Former parking lot south of Bldg 35.  The road into the old Gate 6 is still visible.

Former parking lot south of Bldg 35. The road into the old Gate 6 is still visible.
(Aug  8)

Former parking lot south of Bldg 12.

Former parking lot south of Bldg 12.
(Aug  8)

Former Gate 6 and the SW corner of Bldg 35.

Former Gate 6 and the SW corner of Bldg 35.
(Aug  8)

Bulldozer at work.

Bulldozer at work.
(Aug  8)

A gaggle of trucks.

A gaggle of trucks.
Photo by M.S.S.
(Aug  6)

 
Posted by wilexa at 12:24 AM | Comments (1)

August 14, 2003

Tunnel Work

Work on the north tunnel seems to be picking up. Excavators started tearing out the concrete walls of the tunnel on Wednesday afternoon. This follows several days where a truck would drive down (probably under Lakewood Blvd) into the tunnel out of sight every morning. View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

Work continues on the north tunnel (at the bottom of this photo).  Vehicles would drive into the tunnel every morning.

Work continues on the north tunnel (at the bottom of this photo). Vehicles would drive into the tunnel every morning.
(Aug  8)

Smashing the walls of the north tunnel.

Smashing the walls of the north tunnel.
(Aug 13)

Digging up the walls of the north tunnel.

Digging up the walls of the north tunnel.
(Aug 13)

Posted by wilexa at 12:09 AM | Comments (1)

August 13, 2003

(Missing) Bldg 5 Composite

This composite picture was taken to compare with previous versions. Obviously, Bldg 5 is gone and only Bldg 6 is seen in the distance. Nothing left but blue sky. Compare this image with previous versions.

 

12 August 2003
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12 August 2003.
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Posted by wilexa at 12:03 AM | Comments (1)

August 12, 2003

Chemical Milling Tank Info

Chem milling tanks from Bldg 5.

Regarding this July 10 photo (and the Bldg 5 demolition in general), reader Charley Austin, who worked on the design, construction and start up of new Bldg 5 from 1986-1989 wrote in to give a background on the tanks we see in the Bldg 5 pictures:

The image closest to Carson Street is Tank DC-05. It was the worlds largest Aluminum Chemical Milling Tank, holding 104,400 gallons of chemical milling solution.

It was really cool, it had gull wing type lids on top of it and was 12ft wide by 75 feet long by 15.5ft deep. Specifically designed for chemical milling of the C-17 fuselage sections which drove the width of the tank because they were almost 11ft wide. The C-17 floor beams at the time were one piece machined extrusions that were 68 ft. long.

The weird thing about the picture is (if I remember correctly) I believe that was the first tank we installed and it looks like it was the last to come out. We started putting the chem mill tanks in on the North and worked our way South to the anodize line.

Many thanks go out to Charley for sharing his expert insight!

Posted by wilexa at 06:10 PM | Comments (1)

August 11, 2003

DC-2 On Display

The DC-2 display on "717 Day" at the Long Beach plant was fun to tour. Here are a few pictures, along with the requisite demolition update. We apologize for the long break since the last update, but everyone needs a vacation now and then! View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.

DC-2 display at 717 Day, 2003.
(Jul 17)

Much of the work appears to involve creating various piles of dirt and rubble.

Much of the work appears to involve creating various piles of dirt and rubble.
Photo by anon
(Jul 21)

A long pile of dirt.

A long pile of dirt.
Photo by anon
(Jul 21)

The pile of debris in the center of this photo is the shed that had been used for maintenance on the excavators the past few months.

The pile of debris in the center of this photo is the shed that had been used for maintenance on the excavators the past few months.
Photo by anon
(Jul 21)

The "swimming pool" under former Bldg 5.

The "swimmimg pool" under former Bldg 5.
Photo by anon
(Jul 22)

Another shot of the "swimming pool" under former Bldg 5.

Another shot of the "swimmimg pool" under former Bldg 5.
Photo by anon
(Jul 22)

Posted by wilexa at 10:46 PM | Comments (1)

July 15, 2003

The Last Piece of Bldg 5

The last piece of Bldg 5 toppled on July 14. It was part of a heat-treating oven that had put up such a fight with the demolition crew. They must be relieved to finally finish it off! View the slide show or examine individual pictures below.

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Last piece of Bldg 5 still standing.  But not for long!

Last piece of Bldg 5 still standing. But not for long!
(Jul 14)

Going, going, ...

Going, going, ...
(Jul 14)

Gone.

Gone.
(Jul 14)

Bldg 5 (at least above-ground part) is history.

Bldg 5 (at least above-ground part) is history.
(Jul 14)

Bldg 5 is gone.

Bldg 5 is gone.
(Jul 14)

Tidying up some Bldg 5 debris.

Tidying up some Bldg 5 debris.
(Jul 14)

Posted by wilexa at 12:04 AM | Comments (1)

July 11, 2003

Cleanup Continues

Cleanup continues as they haul away the debris of Bldg 5. Progress is slow but steady. View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Two big chunks still left of Bldg 5.

Two big chunks still left of Bldg 5.
(Jul 10)

Looking west from Bldg 800.

Looking west from Bldg 800.
(Jul 10)

Chemical milling tank from Bldg 5.

Chemical milling tank from Bldg 5.
(Jul 10)

Looking SW at Lakewood and Carson.

Looking SW at Lakewood and Carson.
(Jul 10)

Fence going up on Carson.

Fence going up on Carson.
(Jul  9)

 
Posted by wilexa at 02:46 AM | Comments (1)

July 08, 2003

July 7 Progress Pics

Some assorted images showing the progress as of July 7. View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Erecting some power poles.

Erecting some power poles.
(Jul  7)

Bldg 5 clean up.

Bldg 5 clean up.
(Jul  7)

Putting up a fence along Carson St.

Putting up a fence along Carson St.
(Jul  7)

Not much left of Bldg 5.

Not much left of Bldg 5.
(Jul  7)

View to the south is getting clearer.

View to the south is getting clearer.
(Jul  7)

 

And a wide-angle view that should be familiar by now:

07 July 2003
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07 July 2003.
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Posted by wilexa at 11:37 AM | Comments (1)

July 07, 2003

Bldg 41 Renovation

An anonymous reader sent in these views of the west side of the plant. Bldg 41 is currently undergoing renovation. It will remain part of the "Boeing enclave" and will not be demolished. A different fate awaits Bldgs 12 and 13. Click on a image or view the slide show:

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West side of Bldg 12.

West side of Bldg 12.
(Jun 26)

SW corner of Bldg 13.

SW corner of Bldg 13.
(Jun 26)

East side (main entrance) of Bldg 41 during remodel.

East side (main entrance) of Bldg 41 during remodel.
(Jun 26)

Posted by wilexa at 12:14 AM | Comments (1)

Bldg 5 Fall... more photos

More images of Bldg 5's last day standing. Courtesy of contributor MSS, here is a mini-panorama:

30 June 2003
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30 June 2003.
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And a few snapshots as well. Click on a image or view the slide show:

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Bldg 5 after the fall.

Bldg 5 after the fall.
Photo by M.S.S.
(Jun 30)

Bldg 5 collapses.

Bldg 5 collapses.
Photo by M.S.S.
(Jun 30)

Bldg 5 after the dust settles.

Bldg 5 after the dust settles.
Photo by M.S.S.
(Jun 30)

Posted by wilexa at 12:13 AM | Comments (1)

June 30, 2003

New worksite overview

Take a look at this latest panorama. For a comparison over time, visit the basic westerly view page.

27 June 2003
Date
27 June 2003.
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5692x448 (344 KB) 11384x896 (1.1 MB)
QuickTime VR (2.4 MB)
Base Photos
(not yet avail)
Posted by wilexa at 12:01 AM | Comments (1)

June 26, 2003

Fire and Falling Towers

It's Movie Day! Contributor "M.S.S." sends in two movies of recent events. Visit the movies page to view them. Fire and falling towers make great action!

Stair tower movie

Stairwell tower on Bldg 5 toppling down.
(Jun 20)
Video by M.S.S.

Bldg 5 Fire movie

Bldg 5 fire!
(Jun 16)
Video by M.S.S

 
Posted by wilexa at 10:50 PM | Comments (1)

June 25, 2003

Assorted Photos

While the workers are closing in on the finish line for Bldg 5, now is a good time to catch up on some more assorted photos.

Crews have been busy "planting" little pipes all around the open areas. The ceiling crane (or at least parts of it) is still visible inside Bldg 5. And honorable mention goes to the rectangular "process tank" structure that has kept the godzillas at bay. Each layer takes hours to remove, and each time, there is another beneath it! It looks like the toughest resistance yet met by the team. As always, you can view the slide show or examine individual pictures below.

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Tank structure that is tough, tough, tough!

Tank structure that is tough, tough, tough!
(Jun 24)

Bldg 5 is going...

Bldg 5 is going...
(Jun 24)

Pipes and drums.

Pipes and drums.
(Jun 24)

Bldg 5 ceiling detail.

Bldg 5 ceiling detail.
(Jun 24)

   
Posted by wilexa at 12:01 AM | Comments (1)

June 24, 2003

Dump Truck Dumped

Reader "M.S.S." wrote:

I also have a couple of pictures of the dump truck that tipped sideways while back-filling one of the Bldg.3 dig sites. They used one of the tractor trucks to right the dump truck. The dump truck ended up with a flat tire and was out of action for the day.
Thanks for the story and the photos! View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Dump truck tipped into hole and stuck.

Dump truck tipped into hole and stuck.
Photo by M.S.S.
(May  1)

Dump truck rescued.

Dump truck rescued.
Photo by M.S.S.
(May  1)

 
Posted by wilexa at 02:59 AM | Comments (1)

Bldg 5 Update: June 21

Bldg 5 on Saturday, June 21:


June 21, 2003. Click the picture to compare with past views. Also available in large (120 KB) and extra large (408 KB) versions.

Posted by wilexa at 01:02 AM | Comments (1)

June 23, 2003

June 23 Update

The north end of Bldg 5 is just beginning to come down. Last Friday they removed the stairwell tower from the NE corner of the building, began chewing on the facade, and generally ripped open a huge section of the east wall. View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Working on a Saturday.

Working on a Saturday.
(Jun 21)

Bldg 5 and environs.

Bldg 5 and environs.
(Jun 21)

Not much left of its former self.

Not much left of its former self.
(Jun 21)

Good view of inside north wall.

Good view of inside north wall.
(Jun 21)

Loading the truck.

Loading the truck.
(Jun 21)

Looking SW from Lakewood & Carson.

Looking SW from Lakewood & Carson.
(Jun 21)

The stairwell tower is gone.

The stairwell tower is gone.
(Jun 21)

Starting to chew on the Bldg 5 facade along Carson St.

Starting to chew on the Bldg 5 facade along Carson St.
(Jun 21)

Making more progress.  Not much left of the west side of Bldg 5.

Making more progress. Not much left of the west side of Bldg 5.
(Jun 21)

Posted by wilexa at 04:01 AM | Comments (1)

May 29, 2003

Bldg 5 Panorama - May 28

Bldg 5 panorama taken May 28, 2003.

Bldg 5 Panorama 28 May

Bldg 5. 28 May 2003. Available in 875 and 1751 pixel width versions. Compare this to the 22 May image.  

Posted by wilexa at 09:51 PM | Comments (1)

May 28, 2003

Gravity Lessons Movie

More gravity lessons, courtesy of Sevenson v. Bldg 5.

Bldg 5 Movie 2   Pick a format:
MPEG-4
AVI no sound
Quicktime Movie
Posted by wilexa at 09:45 PM | Comments (1)

Bldg 5 Update - May 28

The east section of Bldg 5 continues to fall.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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The first day on the job is a biggie for the orange machine.

The first day on the job is a biggie for the orange machine.
(May 27)

More of Bldg 5 is missing.

More of Bldg 5 is missing.
(May 27)

 
Posted by wilexa at 09:42 PM | Comments (1)

May 27, 2003

Bldg 5 Roof Collapse : Movie

Here is a view of some Bldg 5 roof collapsing from street level (no, it's not a Pepsi ad!):

Bldg 5 Movie   Pick a format:
MPEG-4
AVI no sound
Quicktime Movie
Posted by wilexa at 09:27 PM | Comments (1)

Bldg 5 Panorama - May 22

Bldg 5 Panorama 22 May

22 May 2003. Available in 1000 and 2001 pixel width versions. Compare this to the 15 May image.  

Posted by wilexa at 09:15 PM | Comments (1)

Bldg 5 Roof : Photos

The east section of Bldg 5 started to come down on May 22.

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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Bldg 5 with Bldg 801 and Bldg 800 in the background.

Bldg 5 with Bldg 801 and Bldg 800 in the background.
(May 20)

The roof starting to come down on Bldg 5.

The roof starting to come down on Bldg 5.
(May 22)

Tearing away at Bldg 5

Tearing away at Bldg 5
(May 22)

Two excavators at work on Bldg 5.

Two excavators at work on Bldg 5.
(May 22)

Excavator in front of Bldg 5.

Excavator in front of Bldg 5.
(May 22)

Site of former Bldg 17 looking NNW.

Site of former Bldg 17 looking NNW.
(May 22)

Posted by wilexa at 09:10 PM | Comments (1)

May 20, 2003

North End of Bldg 5

Brisk work going on at the north end of Bldg 5. The little annex is gone. By now it is a familiar refrain: "It was just there a couple of days ago". Compare these two photos, taken a few days apart.

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At the corner of Lakewood and Carson, looking southwest.  Site of former gas station is in foreground.

At the corner of Lakewood and Carson, looking southwest. Site of former gas station is in foreground.
(May 15)

Sidewalk is added, but Bldg 5 north extension is gone.

Sidewalk is added, but Bldg 5 north extension is gone.
(May 20)

 
Posted by wilexa at 08:35 PM | Comments (1)

May 19, 2003

May 19 Update

Office furniture is still being removed from Bldg 5! Those photos and more in todays update!

View the slide show or examine individual pictures below:

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East side of Bldg 5.

East side of Bldg 5.
(May 15)

Piles of dirt covered with plastic.  Bldg 4 in the background.

Piles of dirt covered with plastic. Bldg 4 in the background.
(May 15)

Workers in front of Bldg 5.

Workers in front of Bldg 5.
(May 15)

Looking south through the side of Bldg 5.

Looking south through the side of Bldg 5.
(May 15)

Clear view of the offices built inside Bldg 5.  Site of Bldg 17 is in foreground.

Clear view of the offices built inside Bldg 5. Site of Bldg 17 is in foreground.
(May 15)

Looking south.  Bldg 5 skeleton, pedestrian bridge, bus stop, and tower in the distance.

Looking south. Bldg 5 skeleton, pedestrian bridge, bus stop, and tower in the distance.
(May 15)

North section of Bldg 5.

North section of Bldg 5.
(May 15)

At the corner of Lakewood and Carson, looking southwest.  Site of former gas station is in foreground.

At the corner of Lakewood and Carson, looking southwest. Site of former gas station is in foreground.
(May 15)

Drilling and removing desks, south of Bldg 5.

Drilling and removing desks, south of Bldg 5.
(May 19)

Posted by wilexa at 08:19 PM | Comments (1)

May 15, 2003

May 15 Update

The main work appears to be concentrated on Bldg 5, along with digging holes and covering piles of dirt with plastic sheeting. Come back next week for new snapshots to bring out the details. Here are two new wide-screen images to keep you up to date until then:

Bldg 5 [15 May 2003]:


Compare this to the 12 May image. Also available in big and HUGE versions!

Former site of Bldgs 3, 8, and 9 [15 May 2003]:


Compare this to the 02 May image. Also available in really big, ENORMOUS, and QTVR versions!

Posted by wilexa at 02:28 AM | Comments (1)

May 14, 2003

East Side of Bldg 5 Disappearing

Wow! The east side of Bldg 5 is disappearing fast! It's hard to believe the change in just two days. Especially after considering that they take the 3x5-foot panels off one at a time with bolt cutters. A quick snapshot before it's all gone:


Click the picture for a bit bigger image.

Posted by wilexa at 12:01 AM | Comments (1)

May 12, 2003

Former Bldg 17 Site

There is a big empty spot where Bldg 17 stood a few days ago. Here is a mini-panorama:

Former site of Bldg 17, 12 May 2003:



Click the picture to scroll around in a bigger image.
Also available in Extra Large and QuickTime VR versions.
Posted by wilexa at 10:15 PM |